金價點睇?

[廢話]

中央銀行已借出黃金一萬七千噸，佔總存量50％
消息是真的嗎？？

[color=blue]Kakakakakaka.............

此 料 似 未 經 証 實.........

但 G7 則 於 上 星 期 六 批 出 IMF 於 今 年 4 月 賣 金.........
詳 情 尚 要 待 4 月 落 實 云...
實 在 來 說....d 金 愈 賣 愈 貴.......
有 平 金 仲 益

[ALeung]

小弟不才都想問下。

金(或銀都算)自古以黎因其本身characteristic而成為世界貨幣，但係將來會唔會改變？

Kakakakakaka.........

黄 金/白 銀 存 在 已 五 千 多 年 ,而 紙 幣 只 有 二 百 幾 年,

紙 幣 因 汎 濫 成 災 其 制 度 應 有 所 修 補, 否 則 世 人 何 以 為 信 ?

將 來 如 何 演 變 有 待 賢 能 大 德 , 合 力 改 之, 變 幻 才 是 永 恆 !!!


Protect yourself.....got gold/silver ???
Get Physical.....Stay Physical !!!

[ALeung]

中央銀行已借出黃金一萬七千噸，佔總存量50％
消息是真的嗎？？

[color=blue]Kakakakakaka.............

此 料 似 未 經 証 實.........

但 G7 則 於 上 星 期 六 批 出 IMF 於 今 年 4 月 賣 金.........
詳 情 尚 要 待 4 月 落 實 云...
實 在 來 說....d 金 愈 賣 愈 貴.......
有 平 金 仲 益

[SP]

黃金如被政府遺棄的話，只能靠炒，金甲蟲眼中的真貨幣地位，根基便有所動搖
梁哥，那倒要小心點了

係央行需要依賴人民及貨幣生存；
人民及貨幣並不需要依賴央行生存的。


在不誠實貨幣系統下，實在太多事物需要小心了，其中一樣係聯儲局捱唔捱得到一百週年，更加值得關注。


Central banks were all established in order to fund the unpaid and unpayable royal (or government) debt.


The banks are supposed to be a handmaiden to the Mint. After the closing of the Mint to gold and silver the banks became the boss and the Mint was reduced to the status of a handmaiden. This was a violent revolution, the full meaning of which has never been explained by our institutes of higher learning. Slavery works best if people don’t think of themselves as slaves. The Mint is the symbol of freedom. It is the very antithesis of slavery. Yet imposing slavery on the people is as simple as closing the Mint to gold and silver. People are no longer free. They have lost their God-given right to create and extinguish money. They have become slaves since the government has extorted the right of first refusal on their produce and savings.



The fact of the matter is that the Central Bank is anxious to keep its notes competitive with full-bodied gold coins. Therefore it promises to redeem its notes by paying out gold at the statutory rate. So it is not the gold price that is fixed. Just the opposite: it is the value of the bank note that is fixed in terms of gold. The central bank that does the fixing has no other way of maintaining the value of its credit without coercion. The central bank, of course, wants to get rid of this restraint. It can, through coercion. The floating dollar implies coercion through legal tender laws. Full-bodied gold and silver coins never need legal tender protection. There is not one instance recorded in the monetary annals of a creditor ever refusing to accept the full-bodied coin in repayment of debt.


According to Milton Friedman the depreciation of irredeemable currency can be avoided by restricting the issue through a quantity rule, e.g., the note circulation must be increased at a steady annual rate of, say, three percent. However, his thesis amounts to saying that fraudulently issued promises can be given permanent and enduring value, as though people were too dumb to understand fraud when they see it. In other words, Friedman confuses delayed exposure of fraud with inability to expose it. But what kind of a monetary system is it that so vitally depends on assuming that people are inherently stupid? Historically, no monetary fraud has ever succeeded. Every attempt to make the currency permanently irredeemable has been exposed as fraudulent and consequently collapsed.

[SP]

有一日美國總統突然走出來宣讀以下講詞，大家不用驚訝﹕
(反正 30年代將全國人民黃金充公、70年代關閉黃金窗o依類事情都做過咯，相比下，講詞裡面o既行動只係小兒科！)


“Good Afternoon: If you are standing, please sit down. …When the choice must be made between the reigning evil and the suppressed good, there is no substitute for throwing the evil away and bringing the good in. Effective immediately, the Federal Reserve notes, commonly referred to as paper dollars, are declared null and void, and are no longer the official currency of this country. Because the totalface amount of all these paper dollars now in circulation within the United States is about ten times greater than the total face amount of all coins, the paper dollars can be instantly replaced with the existing coins, provided the value of the coins is increased ten times up.

How can this be accomplished? By converting all prices, wages and accounts into cents, and dividing them by ten. And so, my fellow Americans, all the prices are divided by ten and are payable in cents only; All the wages and salaries are divided by ten and are payable in cents only; All the bank accounts are divided by ten and all the payments are to be made in cents only; All the debts are divided by ten and are payable in cents only; All the taxes are divided by ten and are payable in cents only; All the pensions are divided by ten and are payable in cents only; Everything and anything with a dollar sign in front of it is divided by ten and is payable in cents only.

If we would have decided to exchange Federal Reserve green dollars for new red dollars at the rate of one new dollar for ten old ones, all the prices and accounts would have also been reduced by the factor of ten. Instead we are using already existing coins as the new currency, and effect is the same. The exchange of the old money (paper dollars) into the new money (coin cents) is automatic, and the transition period will end at the strike of midnight on Monday night. During this one day transition period, both paper dollars and coins at their new value may be used interchangeably, for example, a copy of the New York Times can be paid for with one dollar in paper or 10 cents in coins on Monday, but from Tuesday on, only 10 cents in coins will be the proper payment. All paper dollars not deposited on Monday by midnight deadline in banking institutions for credit in cents at the rate of 10 cents for each dollar, shall not be accepted as payment from Tuesday on. From now until midnight Monday, all the border crossings shall be closed, all interbank wire transfers shall be suspended, and no international flights will be allowed into the United States except those now in the air.

It would make little sense, to scrap the Federal Reserve paper dollars while leaving the Federal Reserve System in place so it would produce counterfeited cents in place of counterfeited dollars. The Federal Reserve banks are hereby declared to be on indefinite holiday, and the Secret Service, which has jurisdiction over investigating the cases of counterfeiting, was instructed to put padlocks on all of them under official seal of the President of the United States. The proposed legislation to repeal Federal Reserve Act as amended, shall be submitted to Congress first thing tomorrow morning. This legislation calls for transfer of the Fed's entire "estate" to the US Department of the Treasury, whose primary duty now it shall be to see to it that unearned currency is never reintroduced again.

It would also make little sense to scrap the paper dollar and the Federal Reserve producing it, while leaving your credit cards intact, so you could produce unearned money yourself. For this reason, indefinite moratorium is declared on credit card payments, and the new legislation shall be submitted to Congress in the morning, to make charging the purchase of anything into nonexisting funds a felony equal to passing bad checks. If you like to use your Visa or Master Card, first apply for a loan, deposit the loan proceeds into your bank account, and then use your Visa or Master Card to your heart's content as a debit card, charging your purchases to the money you actually have in your account. Creating new money out of thin air after the fact just to make good your plastic "payments" with non-existing money is over. But you will be happy to hear that the proposed credit card legislation calls for uniform, statutory discharge in bankruptcy of all existing credit card debt. Whatever you bought so far with your credit cards is yours to keep, and you won't have to repay anything on your terminated credit cards accounts, so far, but no further.

All your other debts whether secured by public filings, such as mortgages, UCC-statements, liens, etc, or plain unsecured debts are still valid and enforceable. Scrapping the fiat dollars, the Federal Reserve System and the credit cards would still be insufficient to kill the fiat money regime, if the Federal debt in the form of Treasury bills, Treasury notes and Treasury bonds was not declared null and void either. These bills, notes and bonds are simply the counterfeited fiat dollars earning interest.

Ordinarily, interest is the price of liquidity. If you prefer to keep your wealth in perfectly liquid form, you keep it in the form of cash and your cash earns no interest. To earn interest you must exchange your cash for less liquid assets, and the less liquid the asset the higher the interest rate you earn. Under the fiat dollar regime, Treasury bills, notes and bonds allowed one to keep one's wealth in perfectly liquid form and still earn interest by courtesy of the American taxpayers. And to add proverbial insult to injury, these obligations were originally paid for not in earned money but the unearned money, the counterfeited money, created out of thin air by a few keystrokes on Alan Greenspan's computer at the Fed.

In his famous essay, Gold and Economic Freedom, Alan Greenspan wrote: "The abandonment of the gold standard made it possible for the welfare statists to use the banking system as a means to an unlimited expansion of credit. They have created paper reserves in the form of government bonds which - through a complex series of steps - the banks accept in place of tangible assets and treat as if they were an actual deposit, i.e., as the equivalent of what was formerly a deposit of gold. The holder of a government bond or of a bank deposit created by paper reserves believes that he has a valid claim on a real asset. But the fact is that there are now more claims outstanding than real assets. … "The law of supply and demand is not to be conned. As the supply of money (of claims) increases relative to the supply of tangible assets in the economy, prices must eventually rise. Thus the earnings saved by the productive members of the society lose value in terms of goods. When the economy's books are finally balanced, one finds that loss in value represents the goods purchased by the government for welfare or other purposes with the money proceeds of the government bonds financed by bank credit expansion." Thus we have it on the best authority that the Treasury securities we elected to declare null and void match, dollar for dollar, the Government's past deficit spending.

Now the question is, may we in effect confiscate all that counterfeited wealth without violating the Constitution of the United States, which provides in the Fifth Amendment: "No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." And the answer is: Yes, we may, because it is a counterfeited wealth. When you are found in possession of a counterfeited 100-dollar bill, that bill is subject to confiscation without compensation, notwithstanding that you received it in the course of regular commerce, for value, and without notice that it was in fact counterfeited.

The stock exchanges will remain closed indefinitely, and proposed legislation shall be
submitted to Congress tomorrow morning to close them for good, and to establish a rule that corporate stock shall from time now on be always purchased directly from the issuing corporations, subject to express warranties as to its book value, and redeemed by the issuing corporations in a manner similar to redemption of shares of money market mutual funds. Internet technologies provide sufficient instrumentalities for executing such stock transactions instantaneously. The rigged casinos, known as stock exchanges, will never reopen. They are history.

An amendment to the Constitution of the United States abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in the business in competition with its citizens will be resubmitted in Congress tomorrow morning. The present system of taxation shall continue temporarily until it is overhauled in accordance with the new tax legislation.

Effective immediately, Social Security Administration shall be placed in receivership, and all Social Security payroll deductions shall be deposited in the special departments of the local banks, to the individual accounts of the beneficiaries from whose paychecks they were withheld. Maintaining such departments shall be the public service of the local banks in consideration for yearly renewal of their banking charters. All these departments in aggregate shall constitute new National Pension Fund. NPF shall pay interest on all pension deposits at the rate not lower than 1 basis point per day (3.65% per annum), and shall charge interest on mortgage loans at the rate not higher than 2 basis points per day (7.3% per annum). Net annual profits of NPF operations shall be distributed as dividends to individual depositors in proportion to their deposits maintained at the NPF.

There shall be no compulsion for anyone to maintain his/her pension money at the NPF. Once the payroll deduction is deposited at the NPF, the beneficiary will be free to write a check against it at any time. It shall be each citizen's own responsibility to provide for his/her retirement. The NPF will only provide banking infrastructure to make it easier to accomplish.

The government will of course assume responsibility for continuing Social Security benefits now due, and for equalizing benefits to new retirees in the coming years, for whom NPF system will not be able to produce adequate pensions in time for their retirement. These benefits will be paid from the Treasury's general fund. To assure that the purchasing power of people's savings will remain undiminished, the orderly transition to silver and gold money shall be arranged.

One gram of standard monetary silver .900 fine shall be the new currency unit that will circulate parallel with new cents. US Mint shall promptly begin production of the new 5 grams and 10 grams silver coins, and the old silver coins shall also be accepted as payments at the following "gram" values:

Old Silver Dime 2.50 grams
Old Silver Quarter 6.25 grams
Old Silver Half 12.50 grams
Old Silver Dollar 26.73 grams
New Silver Eagle 34.56 grams

How many new cents for one gram? That will be determined over time at the marketplace. US Mint will also begin production of the new 5 grams and 10 grams gold coins, made of standard monetary gold .900 fine, and their value in new cents and in grams of silver will also be determined by the free market. Already existing gold coins, domestic or foreign, will of course be accepted at their gold content in grams .900 fine.

The ultimate objective is to develop uniform worldwide monetary system where 1 gram of standard monetary silver will be the unit of account in daily commerce, and 1 gram of standard monetary gold for big ticket items and in international commerce.

Well, you will have plenty to think about tonight. For the benefit of those who missed it, or who need further clarification, this address will be re-broadcast every hour tonight and
tomorrow. This reform only appears overwhelming and earth-shattering. In reality, it is very simple, and it will change your life very much for the better. Thank you for listening. Good Night!”

[polo]

其實金甲蟲驚唔驚到最後會比政府充公晒 d 金呢？

[cknn]

中央銀行已借出黃金一萬七千噸，佔總存量50％
消息是真的嗎？？

[color=blue]Kakakakakaka.............

此 料 似 未 經 証 實.........

但 G7 則 於 上 星 期 六 批 出 IMF 於 今 年 4 月 賣 金.........
詳 情 尚 要 待 4 月 落 實 云...
實 在 來 說....d 金 愈 賣 愈 貴.......
有 平 金 仲 益

[SP]

其實金甲蟲驚唔驚到最後會比政府充公晒 d 金呢？

將來o既事邊個知！


不如關心o下揸 fiat/bond o依家日日俾政府充公仲好啦！

[hkils2001]

呢篇野愚人節出黎應該嚇得

[ALeung]

Will g7 really sell gold in such large quntity?

Kakakakakaka.........

Sure, they have approved & announced,
Just expect the unexpected !!!!!!!!!!!
Even they are selling ,markets might not be affected,
or perhaps, this is the CONSPIRACY of Uncle Sam.........
selling other people's gold........
who knows ????????




Protect yourself.....got gold/silver ???
Get Physical....Stay Physical !!!

[糟老頭]

有一日美國總統突然走出來宣讀以下講詞，大家不用驚訝﹕
(反正 30年代將全國人民黃金充公、70年代關閉黃金窗o依類事情都做過咯，相比下，講詞裡面o既行動只係小兒科！)


“Good Afternoon: If you are standing, please sit down. … . . . . .
. . . . .. . . . . .. . . . . . . .
. . . . The ultimate objective is to develop uniform worldwide monetary system where 1 gram of standard monetary silver will be the unit of account in daily commerce, and 1 gram of standard monetary gold for big ticket items and in international commerce.
Good Night!”

美國目前的困局, 可能真是要再次起用「一國兩幣」來解决.

「一國兩幣」並非新鮮事物. 偉大祖國曾有「外滙卷」和人民幣並行, 現在更是一國三幣 : RMB, HK$, 馬交紙.

老美在 1933 至 1971 期 間, 本質上亦行「一國兩幣」. 海外的美鈔, 可拿回美國換回黃金 ( De Gaulle 將法國的美元換回黃金,然後出動軍艦運金回法國 ); 但美國本土人無此權利.

如果美國再行「一國兩幣」, 國內外美元可以有截然不同的寬緊政策, 因事制宜.

如為應付天文數字的福利開支 ( Social Security 成立之初 [~1930年代], 人均壽命 ~65歲, 所以定明你要供到 6張過外, 先可享用 , 因為諗住到時你已經瓜老襯; 你供左一世既錢就自然可以「 收歸國有」, 點知後來醫療大躍進, 個個變哂老而不, 令政府負擔大增) 自然要多印多印鈔票; 但又如何令海外美元持有者繼續持有美元 ???

此時, 「一國兩幣」就發出奇効矣 : 海外美元, 可能再次與金、銀、甚至石油庫存掛鈎, 到時, 「海外美元」又再成為海外人見人愛之 Money 矣.

或曰 : 「一國兩幣」, duck 唔 duck 架 ?
最後一定唔得, 但死鬼 Keynes 一早話落 : In the long term we are all dead 咯.

不遇, 只要拉拉扯扯又捱多幾十年, 到時 關人爵士 , Who F'ing cares ?

[DCC]

一去到美國時段, 金價即跌. 今晚美國政府唔知又推o左幾多金出o黎.

老實講, 金真係唔易玩. 市場干預實在太利害了.

[Insider]

一去到美國時段, 金價即跌. 今晚美國政府唔知又推o左幾多金出o黎.

老實講, 金真係唔易玩. 市場干預實在太利害了.

經濟衰退+財富蒸發，那還有咁多閒錢買金？？

[No Eye See (+_+)]

一去到美國時段, 金價即跌. 今晚美國政府唔知又推o左幾多金出o黎.

老實講, 金真係唔易玩. 市場干預實在太利害了.

經濟衰退+財富蒸發，那還有咁多閒錢買金？？

慘得過大蕭條兼通縮的30' ?

[hkils2001]

經濟衰退+財富蒸發，那還有咁多閒錢買金？？

In 大大, 你對貴金屬大勢有心得嗎? 這是銀紙變癈紙的先兆嗎?